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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.05 05:20:00 -
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http://themittani.com/news/ccp-secretly-gifted-somer-blink-ishukone-scorpions
There are no words for how incredibly low you've sunk, CCP. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:34:00 -
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"Goons are mad about something, clearly I should take the opposite position even though on principle I'd probably agree otherwise." My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5865
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:36:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:"Goons are mad about something, clearly I should take the opposite position even though on principle I'd probably agree otherwise."
Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:Oh look!
More Goons upset with CCP Favouritism towards a group that isn't them.
Surprised!
Case in point. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5865
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:40:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:"Goons are mad about something, clearly I should take the opposite position even though on principle I'd probably agree otherwise." Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:Oh look!
More Goons upset with CCP Favouritism towards a group that isn't them.
Surprised! Case in point. Yeah but its true in this case :) Uh...
Of course it's true. You make it sound like we aren't making it very clearly known that CCP favoritism is exactly the problem. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5865
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:45:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Yes, your problem is that their supposedly favoritism isn't aimed at you Of course, we can't possibly be angry about a ******* dumb change in CCP policy. It has to be that we're upset about not getting spaceship My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.05 09:21:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Yes, your problem is that their supposedly favoritism isn't aimed at you Of course, we can't possibly be angry about a ******* dumb change in CCP policy. It has to be that we're upset about not getting spaceship Thanks for making it clear to all why your upset :) Thanks for playing dumb, that really progresses the discussion. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.05 09:36:00 -
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If CCP gives me an Ishukone Scorp I'll gladly fraps myself trashing it. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5873
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Posted - 2013.10.05 09:40:00 -
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Prince Kobol is just going through what we all went through when we first heard the news.
Denial that CCP could be so carelessly stupid.
While the rest of us quickly moved on to the later stages of coping, Prince Kobol descended into lunatic raves defending that which we all abhor. CCP's reputation is to be preserved at all costs. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.05 09:46:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Prince Kobol is just going through what we all went through when we first heard the news.
Denial that CCP could be so carelessly stupid.
While the rest of us quickly moved on to the later stages of coping, Prince Kobol descended into lunatic raves defending that which we all abhor. CCP's reputation is to be preserved at all costs. Lmao So in other words, I can not argue his point so I will retort to calling him names :) You guys are so adorable, I just want to scoop you all up, wrap you all up in cotton wool and feed you jelly and ice cream :) He can dish it but he can't take it. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5874
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Posted - 2013.10.05 09:50:00 -
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You're not even trying anymore. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:04:00 -
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CroisisCZ wrote:or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.
Case closed, now for the bans... I don't see anyone implying favoritism.
I see a whole lot of people explicitly accusing them of it outright. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.06 00:12:00 -
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"You can't put a value on 1400mm artillery. You could use it to shoot an industrial carrying 15 T2 BPOs and make virtually unlimited profit!" My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5943
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Posted - 2013.10.06 03:25:00 -
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Tippia, Chribba, and several people in enemy alliances who object to this move are clearly "[Goons'] respective alts". My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5943
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Posted - 2013.10.06 04:12:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tippia, Chribba, and several people in enemy alliances who object to this move are clearly "[Goons'] respective alts". There are some folks who attach waaaay too much emotional energy into a corp/alliance tag. I've heard a few "I don't care what is happening, but if it's pissing off Goons then obviously it's the right move." Makes me kind of wonder though, do these folks mean ALL Goons on EVE, or just Goonswarm? Plenty of Somethingawful.com forum members around, who don't join the swarm... Plenty of people in Goonswarm who aren't Goons either, for that matter. At least if you define "Goon" as someone with a SA account. I'm fairly sure that's the definition used in the Swarm, but I'm new so I can't say for sure. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5945
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Posted - 2013.10.06 06:12:00 -
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"Thank you for running a lottery that's massively profitable to all members of your corporation. Here's some 15 billion isk ships for each member of your corporation." My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.06 08:22:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Also CCP will point to the 100 of billions of isk Somer have spent sponsoring events such as 320bil for the NEO. Yes, that was entirely altruistic. They didn't stand to gain anything from the increased exposure of such a move. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5957
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Posted - 2013.10.06 09:35:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Also CCP will point to the 100 of billions of isk Somer have spent sponsoring events such as 320bil for the NEO. Yes, that was entirely altruistic. They didn't stand to gain anything from the increased exposure of such a move. This is your problem, you are obsessed with making out that Somer is some evil entity, there a business and a good one at that. Then you misunderstand my point entirely
Prince Kobol wrote:You really need to stop the Somer bashing because all it does make it look like the Goons have a personal vendetta and detracts from the real issue which is CCP giving away items which can have an in game effect in secrecy. To most intelligent people it goes without saying that my views are my own and not necessarily indicative of views that are held by my corp, my alliance, or anyone else within them. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5958
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Posted - 2013.10.06 09:40:00 -
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Desert Ice78 wrote:To all of you (goons *sigh*) raging about how CCP has just broken the game, consider this bit of logic:
Every year CCP gives out (magic, like) super valuable items to the player base. They are collectively know as the Alliance Tournament prizes. Despite this, the game has not emploded yet. Quite remarkable, isn't it? There's quite an ocean of difference between a very public and regularly recurring tournament open to any alliance in the game with very special and unique prizes given to the winners, and a very under-the-table rewarding of a specific group for very vaguely defined reasons, in addition to publicly rewarding them and explicitly affirming their trustworthiness. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5967
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Posted - 2013.10.06 16:50:00 -
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Danny S wrote:i just wonder why they try'd to keep it secret
Gee I wonder that too... what problem could anyone possibly have with this. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5969
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Posted - 2013.10.06 17:58:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Tippia wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:How is that any fault of Somers? Who said it was? The fault in Somer is playing along with the handouts and trying to help keep them secret. That's a different (business) problem entirely. The OP did : :) Where? My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:54:00 -
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Tippia wrote:In reality, IshuScorp was created to offer ship bling for the NeX in the same way as pants and monocles provided bling for the avatars. When it became apparent that the NeX code was too incomplete to actually handle this properly, it was put away. I believe you, but could I get a source for this? My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.07 00:11:00 -
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Cameron Freerunner wrote:Upon reflection, something occurred to me. Somer got rewarded TWICE. Once with the scorps, once with the drawing. That's a whole lot of rewardin' goin' on. Three times, actually. It's just that the first time it happened, it was to a small enough extent that nobody really thought much of it. It was only when they gave them really rare ships for their drawing did people start to think that maybe CCP shouldn't be handing out items of value to organizations like this, secret or not, for purposes of using them in a lottery or not. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.07 03:18:00 -
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The difference, Dinsdale Pirannha, between you and us, is that we don't make such accusations (at least not as anything more than individuals) without any concrete evidence to support it.
There's more than just concrete evidence here, it's been completely confirmed by all parties involved. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5977
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Posted - 2013.10.07 03:47:00 -
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"500B is pocket change to the largest alliance in the game, so clearly CCP can just give it to anyone and it won't matter." My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5978
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Posted - 2013.10.07 05:39:00 -
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It's not "overly sensitive types".
It's the fact that we're playing a sandbox game which depends on CCP having a laissez-faire approach to the way that players provide content to the game.
If CCP rewards certain organizations for the content they provide and not others, it drastically alters the motivations for providing content and as a result people will provide different kinds of content. Then content providers are no longer community-oriented, they're appeasement-oriented. And that's severely damaging to the kind of game that EVE is.
EVE is a hobby to us. It's as real as any other hobby. Just because it's pixels generated by a client that receives data from a computer program running on a server in London, doesn't mean that we're not engaging in an environment where actions have consequences and meaning. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5981
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Posted - 2013.10.07 06:27:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:1. Start your own successful EVE casino. 2. Receive unique ships from CCP as a gift. 3. Profit
.. are you jealous? Are you stupid? [url]http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpoY8CiN89R3ThYDf_D8M3w/videos[/url] Latest video: August 25, 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.07 08:02:00 -
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CCP is decidedly outside of the sandbox.
Many of the things that CCP does in interaction with the EVE world we tolerate (for the most part) because they still leave plenty of room for player created content, and they're fun. Things like CCP roams through lowsec, the Alliance Tournaments, and live events where the outcome is pretty much predetermined.
But CCP so substantially rewarding a player group, multiple times, for a set of arbitrary and undefined contributions isn't something we should tolerate. One might be tempted to suggest that the way to mitigate this is to reward all player groups and entities for their contributions to the community, but that rapidly devalues any reward that's given (unless they're substantially unique from each other, which causes problems of its own). The easiest and best way to avoid this issue entirely is just to forgo rewarding any player group with in-game content for their contributions to the community. -áFavoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5988
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Posted - 2013.10.07 08:23:00 -
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It's not metagaming when the person who's gaming the system makes the rules and there's nothing you can do about it besides quit playing.
I mean come on now, what fun is that? None. -áFavoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5988
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Posted - 2013.10.07 08:47:00 -
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CCP is already making money quite handsomely. There shouldn't be a need to compromise the spirit of the game to make more, because in the long term that leads to rather bad things. -áFavoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5990
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Posted - 2013.10.07 08:56:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:the spirit of the game CCP give away hundreds of billions of ISK worth of unique ships every year. They also give away special edition ships for commercial reasons every year. We've been over this before. You should perhaps read more carefully about why some of these are acceptable and why some of these aren't. -áFavoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
5999
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:13:00 -
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The value of a T2 BPO is not "unlimited". Neutron Blaster Cannon IIs can be used to give me unlimited isk. That doesn't mean they have infinite or exorbitant values.
If a T2 BPO is regularly bought and sold at 10 billion ISK, then it has a value of 10 billion ISK. Saying that since T2 BPOs can be used to manufacture T2 items indefinitely they have value beyond their market price is absurd. You know what else can be used to manufacture T2 items indefinitely? T1 BPOs. It's just a few added steps with some consumables and a game of chance, but there's not much difference otherwise. -áFavoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:25:00 -
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Rheinkraft wrote:This highlights the problem with the game right now.
You've thrown your support behind everything and nothing at the same time. -áFavoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6003
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:38:00 -
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Well the question of whether SOMER is involved in RMT or not has more to do with what is considered RMT and what isn't, rather than any debate on the veracity of the evidence presented.
I petitioned the matter and was told that they've already looked into it and concluded that SOMER is not doing RMT.
That's not terribly relevant to this discussion, however. -áFavoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6013
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Posted - 2013.10.07 12:13:00 -
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Things have value in this game... who knew? -áFavoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6016
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Posted - 2013.10.07 12:45:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Things have value in this game... who knew? but when somebody ganks you or steals your stuff "it's just the game, relax and have fun" Because it was done by a player. -áFavoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.07 13:40:00 -
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"I don't care to understand the issues involved, I just know that people are always wrong when they're complaining about something." - Jenn aSide Favoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.07 19:54:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Sexy Cakes wrote:
I swear you come off like a first semester psychologist on like every single post. Why do you feel the need to break down people's posts to the motives behind them?
Well, I did double major in psycology and criminal justice... But the main point is, I like to get to the bottom of a situation, to see WHY im right and others or wrong or why I'm wrong and everyone else should STFU because I'm never wrong... I'm not going to change any minds, but again, THIS IS A DISCUSSION BOARD. If you want a board full of yes men, go make "www.FansofSexyCakes.com" and make one of the rules for posting be "must always agree with Sexy Cakes, because these cankes ain't a lie" or something. One more thing, the constant pleading about why I'm posting demonstrates a level of insecurity about the position being discussed. I read that in a psycology textbook once a long time ago Quote: Learn to take things at face value and not debunk people's comments based on your (badly) perceived reasons behind their post.
In other words, lie. No Christ, you're such a big child. Favoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6067
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:54:00 -
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Money Makin Mitch wrote:i have read some allegations that CCP Navigator previously worked for Somer blink. is there any confirmation on this? Bring back Kugutsumen. Favoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
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